The defendant was convicted upon a two-count bill of indictment charging him with forging and uttering a forged check purporting to have been drawn on the account of the Asheville Construction Company with the First National Bank and Trust Company of Ashe-ville, and, as is stated in appellant’s brief, “there was no question but what the cheeks introduced by the State were forged. The only question was as to whether or not the defendant was the guilty party.”
G. A. DeLand, introduced as a witness for the defendant, was found by the court to be a handwriting expert, and, after testifying that he had seen the defendant write and had examined checks admittedly signed by him, was asked the following question and made the following reply:
“Q. I wish you would state whether or not, in your opinion, having seen L. A. Young write his name and other instruments, whether or not the name, Raymond C. Williams, on the back of the alleged forged checks is in the handwriting of L. A. Young?
“A. It is not, because the writing on the back of the checks is a smooth, even, fast writing, and the endorsements on all these checks *453sbow considerably more training in bandwriting tban L. A. Young could possibly exbibit at one time.”
To the latter part of the answer, giving the reasons of the witness for his opinion, the court sustained an objection lodged by the State. And later in his testimony, in explaining why be was of the opinion that the endorsement of the check alleged to have been forged was not in the handwriting of the defendant, the witness testified: “I find that in the small letter ‘a.’ there is a difference. It is written two ways, open at the top and closed at the top. There is a natural deviation. We find in specimen submitted that the ‘a’s’ in practically every instance are closed. Once or twice we find a small opening at the top, but the tendency is toward closed. There is a certain set way of making those ca’s.’ ” The court likewise sustained the objection of the State to the foregoing testimony, and, upon motion of the State, struck from the record both of the quoted reasons given by the witness for his opinion. This action of the court is duly assigned as error by the defendant, and we are of the opinion, and so hold, that such assignment of error must be sustained.
Our holding is based upon the fact that the conclusion of a band-writing expert as to the authenticity or nonauthenticity of a signature, Standing alone, might be of little or no probative force, but if his conclusion be supported by cogent reasons, it would be strengthened and its value as evidence correspondingly enhanced. When the reasons of the witness are given, the jury are afforded a better opportunity to determine the soundness of his conclusion.
In L. E. A., 1918-D, at page 647, it is written: “The evidence of an expert in handwriting is of two classes: (1) Where be simply gives his opinion — which necessarily has only the weight of his learning and character as recognized by the jury; (2) where be gives the reasons on which his opinion is based. An expert witness in handwriting may give the reasons on which be bases his opinion. It is reversible error to refuse to allow him to give the reasons for his opinion, or to conduct the trial in such a manner that be is unable to give connected reasons for his opinion.” See, also, People v. Molineux, 58 N. Y. Supp., 155; Venuto v. Lizzo, 132 N. Y. Supp., 1066; State v. Ryno, 68 Kan., 348.
The fact that the witness was allowed, without objection, to explain to some extent bow and why be reached the conclusion that the check alleged to have been forged was not endorsed by the defendant does not render harmless the striking from the record of a portion of his explanation or of some of the reasons given.
New trial.