Because of the novelty of the question raised by the demurrer of the respondent, and the importance to the public welfare of the correct interpretation of the statute under which tbis proceeding was instituted, we have given the record a careful and anxious consideration. Tbe statute of 1907 (chapter 941) was enacted at the instance of the State Bar Association for the purpose of enabling it to more effectually discharge its duty to the people of the State, the courts and the bar by excluding from the profession unworthy members. This is the first instance in which the courts have been called upon to interpret and enforce its provisions.
Section 1 provides: “That an attorney at law must be disbarred and removed for the following causes: (a) Upon bis being convicted of a crime punishable by imprisonment in the penitentiary, (b) When any judgment is rendered against him for money collected by him as an attorney and retained by him without any bona fide claim thereto or any part thereof.
“Sec. 2. Tbat an attorney at law may be disbarred,” etc., naming two causes.
Tbe motion to disbar the respondent is based upon tbe first, section. It will be observed tbat, among the several causes for which an attorney must or may be disbarred, tbis is the only *47one in which tbe court is required to act upon a record, and the respondent is not permitted to offer anything by way of defense or exculpation. The court cannot inquire into his guilt. The production of the record, showing a conviction, makes it the imperative duty of the court to disbar him. ’Without expressing any opinion as to the wisdom of so drastic a statute, we are not permitted to enlarge its terms by construction. The respondent says that by a recognized canon of construction the penalty must be confined to a conviction had in a court of this State. The case was thoroughly argued before us, and the industry of counsel has afforded us much aid. Counsel for respondent rely upon the rule laid down by Mr. Justice Gray in Logan v. United States, 144 U. S., 263 (p. 303). In that case the plaintiffs in error were indicted in the Circuit Court of the United States for murder and conspiracy, under the provisions of an act of Congress. The indictment was found and the case tried in the State of Texas. The Government introduced one Martin as a, witness. It appeared that he had been convicted in the courts of North Carolina of a felony and sentenced to imprisonment in the county jail. The Texas statute rendered a person convicted of a felony incompetent to' testify in the courts of that State. In discussing the exception to the ruling of the court admitting the witness, it was said: “At common law and on general principles of jurisprudence, when not controlled by express statute giving effect within the State which enacts it to a conviction and sentence in another State, such conviction and sentence can have no effect by way of penalty or of personal disability or disqualification beyond the limits of the State in which the judgment is rendered.” The question, as applied to the disability of a person offered as a witness to testify, arose in this State, in State v. Candler, 10 N. C., 393, when it .was held by a divided court that a witness convicted of an infamous crime in Tennessee was incompetent to testify in this State. The Ohief Justice concedes that such was not the law in England, but was of the opinion that by virtue of the “full faith and credit” clause of the Federal Constitution the law in this country was otherwise. The Court was not construing a statute in that case, but discussing a general principle of law. The question has been decided other*48wise in many otter States, and tbe decided weight of authority is against the decision in Candler's case. Parker, C. J., in Com. v. Green, 17 Mass., 515, writes a very able opinion, holding that “The conviction of an infamous crime in a foreign country or in any other of the United States does not render the subject of such conviction an incompetent witness in the courts of Massachusetts.” He says : “To hold a person incompetent on account of such conviction is to give effect to the conviction and to enforce the punishment; and thus the penal laws of our State would reach into others,” violating well-settled principles. In Simms v. Simms, 75 N. Y., 466, it appears that by a statute of that State it is provided that “No person sentenced upon a conviction for felony- shall be competent to testify, unless pardoned,” etc. Rapadlo, J., said: “I think it quite clear that the disqualification created by this statute is consequent only upon a conviction in this State.” The conviction relied upon to exclude the witness was had in Ohio. Quoting Greenleaf on Evidence, who says that the weight of modern opinion seems to be that personal disqualification arising not from the laws of nature but from positive law, esj>ecially such as are of a penal nature, are strictly territorial and cannot be enforced in any country other than that in which they originated, he says: “I think this doctrine applicable to the question now in hand, and that there is nothing in the Constitution of the United States which prevents such application or requires that the personal disabilities, such as incompetency to testify or to vote, which may be imposed upon a person convicted of crime in one State, should follow him and be enforced in all the others. If such were the operation of the constitutional provision, the qualifications of witnesses called in our courts and of voters at our elections might be made, to depend upon the laws of other States instead of our own.” The learned Justice notices the decision in Candler’s case and meets the argument upon which it is founded. It is insisted by the Attorney-General, and, we think, correctly, that this is not a criminal action. It is rather in the nature of a civil proceeding, and probably should be prosecuted in the name of the Bar Association. This, we notice, is done in several of the States — as in Maine — Penobscot Bar v. Kimball, 64 Me., 140. Treating it as a civil proceeding, *49it is clear that the record of a conviction in a criminal action in another jurisdiction would not be conclusive of guilt. Judge Rapadlo says: “A record of conviction for a crime-is not conclusive evidence, in a civil action, of the facts upon which it was based. There is a great weight-of authority against its being admissible at all, except as evidence of the fact of conviction, when that fact is material.” Greenleaf Ev., sec. 537; Wharton Conflict Laws, sec. 108; Ganitee v. Bond, 102 Md., 379; 5 Am. and Eng. Anno. Cases, 915. The point was presented and decided in an interesting case in 2 West Ya., 569 — Ex parte Quarrier. The applicant for admission to the bar was duly licensed as an attorney in another State, and, complying with the statute in the newly made State of West Virginia, he was met with the objection that he was guilty of treason, having in his native State voted for the ordinance of secession and voluntarily entering the army of the Confederate States. He had received a pardon from the President. The Court held that he was entitled to be admitted, saying: “Indeed, it must not be forgotten that in this case no treason against the State of West Virginia, whose courts are invoked to consider the subject, has been either proved or confessed, and^the only acts stated that could amount to the crime of treason were perpetrated against the United States, and for which the party has been pardoned by that Government. Now it would be straining the point too far to hold, as contended for, that the war being waged against the United States, of which the State of West Virginia was one, was' therefore waged against her in the sense contemplated by the statute against treason, and that therefore the acts in question were treason against the State and felony within the statue. For, while it is not intended to deny that the same act might constitute treason against the United States and also against the State, it is not enough to wage war against the United States generally or collectively or as component parts of the national Union, but it must be done directly against the State in particular. * * * An appeal has been made to the court to exclude attorneys, circumstanced as the -applicant is, upon the ground of public policy and the danger of baleful influence in a political light. But *50these are considerations better addressed to the Legislature than the courts. Whatever may be the true policy of the lawmaking power to pursue is a question for that power to determine. The duty and true policy of the courts to pursue is to expound the law as it is, and, if it is not what it ought to be, to leave it to the Legislature to change it.”
In Wisconsin v. Insurance Co., 127 U. S., 265, it is said (p. 291) : “The proper place for punishment is where the crime was committed, and no society takes concern in any crime but what is hurtful to itself.” Karnes Eq. (3 Ed.), 326. When we consider the question upon the “reason of the thing” and sound State policy, the wisdom of the law, as we find it laid down with practical uniformity, is manifest. It is the natural interpretation of all statutes creating offenses and defining conduct, the doing of which is made indictable or subject to' penalties, to refer them solely to the commission of such acts within this State. In r.espect to punishment of crimes and imposition of penalties, the States act within their own territorial limits and the Federal Government within its own sphere. ■ No State can administer the Federal statutes, maintain prosecutions for-their violations or impose punishments or j>enalties, Parlcer, O. J., in Green’s case, supra, wisely says: “Whether the facts which would be here deemed an infamous crime are the same which constitute the like offense in the country from which the record comes, the court will have no means of knowing with certainty. The crime of treason is known to be different in different countries. What is felony also in our country may not be felony in another, and it is competent for the Legislature of every nation to attach disabilities to the commission of offenses which by the laws of other nations may be wholly without such consequences.” We know that the Federal Government punishes practically all offenses with imprisonment in the penitentiary. Violations of the revenue laws, often technical and involving no moral turpitude whatever, may be so punished. Again, acts which in our State are deemed misdemeanors, punishable by fine or a short term in the county jail or house of correction, are deemed of grave character and punished by imprisonment in the State’s Prison in other States. Each State makes it's penal codes, and *51the Federal Government does the same. If any other interpretation were put upon our statute it would logically follow that for violation of the Federal statutes or statutes of other States citizens of this State would forfeit their right to vote under our Constitution. Certainly the people of North Carolina never contemplated that any such construction would be put upon their laws. Care must be had to keep clearly in mind the fact that the court, in enforcing the statute, does not and cannot inquire whether in truth the respondent has committed the crime charged. It is restricted to the inquiry whether he has been “convicted,” and for this purpose the record of conviction by a court having jurisdiction to hear and determine the charge is conclusive, and the Court must disbar him. No provision is made for pardon or for repentance, followed by a life of probity. "We are of the opinion that upon well-settled principles and sound reason the statute is confined to a conviction in this State.
It is insisted that, however this may be in regard to the act of 1907, the respondent may be disbarred by the court under the power conferred in section-211, Eevisal. It is suggested that this statute is by implication repealed by the act of 19 07. We incline to the opinion that the last statute is not in conflict with sections 211 and 212 of the Eevisal. It is not necessary that we should decide the question, because, while the language clearly restricts the power of the courts to disbar an attorney, the exceptive language, “unless he shall have been convicted in open court or confessed himself guilty of some criminal offense, showing himself unfit to be trusted,” etc., are to be interpreted in the same way as the word “convicted,” in the act of 1907; hence the same obstruction is met in enforcing section 211 against the respondent. The history of this legislation may be learned and the purpose of the Legislature understood by reference to Moore, ex parte, 63 N. C., 397; Biggs, ex parte, 64 N. C., 202, and Schenck, ex parte, 65 N. C., 353. The last case was argued with a wealth of learning by the most eminent members of the Bar of the State. The Court held that the act of 1871 (Eevisal, see. 211) was constitutional;, that it did not deprive the court of any of its “inherent powers”; that the court had no power to disbar an attorney fo* causes other than those *52prescribed by the statute. The opinion concludes: “It is a law of the land and ought to be observed.” The question came before, the Court again in Haywood, ex parte, 66 N. C., 1. Pearson, G. J., after a careful consideration of the effect of the statute upon the power of the court to disbar an attorney, said: “The act of 1871 (Revisal, sec.'211) takes from the court the common-law power to purge the bar of unfit members, except in specified cases, and it fails to provide any other power to be used in its place. It is a disabling and not an enabling statute, the whole purpose seeming to be to tie the hands of the court, so, when one power is taken away, the court is not at liberty to fall back upon another which it had before adjudged to be ineffectual to accomplish the end proposed.” This case, as Schenck, ex parte, was argued by Mr. Moore, Mr. Phillips and Mr. Mer-rimon, counsel eminent for their learning, industry and loyalty to their profession. The Court was evidently desirous of exerting such power as had been left to it by the Legislature to compel a derelict attorney to discharge a conceded duty or be disbarred. It came to the conclusion that “the Legislature had tied its hands.” We do not entertain any doubt that, in the absence of restrictive legislation, the courts have an inherent power to strike from their rolls names of attorneys who are found by reason of their conduct unfit and unworthy members. The decisions to this effect are numerous and uniform. An instructive opinion upon the question is to be found in Penobscot Bar v. Kimball, 64 Me., 140. Dickerson, J., says: “An attorney is an officer of the court, as appears from the terms of his oath of office, to wit: ‘You will conduct yourself in the office of an attorney according to the best of your knowledge and discretion, and with all good fidelity, as well to the courts as your clients.’ The order of his admission to the bar is the judgment of the court that he possesses the requisites, legal qualifications and good moral character to entitle him to practice the profession of an attorney at law. Prom the moment of his entrance upon the duties of his office he becomes responsible to the court for his official misconduct. The tenure of his office is during good behavior, and he can only be deprived of it for misconduct ascertained and determined by the court, after oppor*53tunity to be beard bas been afforded. In tbe absence of specific provisions to tbe contrary, tbe power of removal is commensurate witb tbe power of appointment. * * * If a good, moral character is indispensable to entitle one to admission to tbe bar, it is obvious tbat tbe necessity for its continuance becomes enhanced by tbe conflicts, excitements and temptations to which tbe practitioner is daily liable. ' For bis official misconduct there is no power of removal but in tbe court. This power is therefore at once necessary to protect tbe court, preserve tbe purity of tbe administration of justice and maintain tbe integrity of the bar. * * * It is a mistaken view of this subject, as tbe foregoing authorities show, to conclude tbat an attorney at law can only be disbarred for acts done ‘in bis office as attorney’ or ‘with tbe courts,’ in tbe term of bis oath of office. On tbe contrary, an attorney may be guilty of disreputable practices and gross immoralities in bis private capacity and without tbe pale of tbe court which render him unfit to associate witb gentlemen, disqualify him for tbe faithful discharge of bis professional duties, in or out of court, and render him unworthy to minister in tbe forum of justice. "When such a ease arises, from whatever acts or causes, tbe cardinal condition of tbe attorney’s admission to tbe bar, tbe possession of a ‘good moral character,’ is forfeited, and it will become tbe solemn duty of tbe court, upon a due presentment of tbe case, to revoke tbe authority it gave tbe offending member as a symbol of legal fitness and moral uprightness, lest it should be exercised for evil or tarnished witb shame.” Whipple, C. J., in Mills, ex parte, 1 Minn., 393, says: “Should this Court, after being officially advised tbat one of its officers bas forfeited tbe good name be possessed when permitted to assume tbe duties of bis office, still bold him out to tbe world as worthy -of confidence, they would, in my opinion, fail in tbe performance of a duty .east upon them by tbe law. It is a duty they owe to themselves, to tbe bar and to tbe public to see tbat a jtower which may be wielded for good or for evil is not entrusted to incompetent or dishonest bands. Tbe extreme judgment of expulsion is not intended as a punishment inflicted upon tbe individual, but as a measure necessary to tbe protection of tbe public, who have a right to demand of us tbat *54no person shall be permitted to aid in the administration of justice whose character is tainted with corruption.” Ex parte, Smith, 28 Ind., 47; Fletcher v. Daingerfield, 20 Cal., 427; ex parte, Brown, 2 Miss., 303. In State v. Kirke, 12 Fla., 278, Wescott, J., writes an exhaustive opinion, reviewing the statutes and decisions in England and in this country. Percy’s case, 36 N. Y., 651; In re Wooley, 74 Ky., 95; People v. Goodrich, 79 Ill., 148; In re Smith, 85 Pac. Rep., 584. These cases all hold that for dishonesty or other conduct in his official character, showing an absence of good moral character, the court has the inherent power to disbar an attorney. Some of them, as in the case from Maine, hold that when without reference to his official duties or relations he is guilty of such conduct the court may strike his name from the roll of its attorneys. In none of the cases do the courts undertake to say how far the Legislature may limit this inherent and essential power. We do not deem it proper to express any opinion upon this delicate question. This Court having held, in the cases cited, that the act of 1871 (now section 211, Revisal) did not deprive it of its essential inherent powers in this respect, we do not care to disturb or draw the question into discussion. Whatever may have been the reasons for passing that statute, they no longer exist, having passed away with the conditions which brought them into action. We are sure that in re-enacting the statute in the Re-visal of 1905 it was not the intention of the Legislature to unduly “tie the hand” of the court in preserving the high standard of conduct and character of our bar, which has been the pride of the people of the State. We have no doubt that if it appears to the Legislature that larger power in the courts is necessary to enable them to discharge their ■ duty it will be prompt to confer it or to withdraw any undue restrictions now existing. Even for so laudable an end as purging the bar of unworthy members we should not exercise doubtful power or unnecessarily come into conflict with the Legislature. We do not entertain any doubt that, notwithstanding the restrictions placed upon the courts by the statute, ample power exists to protect-them and their suitors from indignity, fraud, dishonesty or malpractice on the part of any of its officers in the dis*55charge of their official duties. It is manifest, however, that for the commission of crimes which seriously affect their moral character, but have no direct connection with their practical and immediate relation to the courts, the power to disbar attorneys is -restricted by the express language of the statutes to convictions of the class of crimes named in the statutes. To give any other construction to the statute would not only do violence to well-settled principles, but might lead to results not contemplated by the Legislature. If, as the record shows, the respondent is guilty of the crime charged, his name should be stricken from the roll of attorneys in this State, but as we have seen, no power now exists in the court to do so. We were requested by the committee on grievances to express our opinion to this extent, to the end that such further legislation may be had as would enable the State Bar Association to aid the courts in removing from the bar unworthy members. How far it is wise to define the crimes or confine cases to the mode of punishment as the basis for compulsory action is for the consideration of the Legislature. Like all legislation of general application, it is difficult to avoid danger of miscarriage in individual cases. We have been favorably impressed with the method of procedure followed in the Kimball case, 64 Me., 140. There the accusation was made by the bar, and, upon a notice to show cause, a reference was ordered to take testimony and report to the court; whereupon, after argument, the case was disposed -of upon its merits. The disposition made by us of this appeal will not prevent a further investigation of the fitness of respondent to continue to be a member of the bar, if the restriction now imposed upon the court is removed. The action of the committee-on grievances is in all respects to be commended. They have discharged their duty, and the failure to remove the respondent, who, as the record shows, has been convicted of forgery, is no fault of theirs. The case must be remanded to the Superior Court of Buncombe, with direction to dismiss the proceeding, unless the Legislature shall confer the power to investigate and pass upon the motion to disbar for conduct showing that since he received his license from this Court he has been guilty of dishonest and criminal conduct. In this he has violated his *56oatb that be “will honestly demean himself in the practice of an attorney.” In such investigation the record of his conviction will be competent evidence of his guilt. We do not hold that for the commission of a felony or other infamous crime, “showing him to be unfit to be trusted in the discharge of the duties of his profession” committed in another State, he should not be disbarred by the courts of this State. The question is not presented. It is obvious that a man who will commit forgery or perjury or be otherwise dishonest in one State is not a fit person to be a member of the bar of this State. We simply hold that the statute (chapter 941, Laws 1907) does not impose upon the court the duty or confer the power to disbar an attorney because he has been “convicted” in the courts of another State or the United States. We further hold that the language of section 211, Re-visal, disables the court from disbarring for the conviction of crime in another jurisdiction, in the exercise of its “inherent power” to deal with its attorneys. We had occasion in In re Applicants, 143 N. C., 1, to consider the question of our power to refuse to license applicants who were shown to' be of bad moral character, and the extent to which it was subject to legislative control. The subject was carefully considered and the opinion of a majority of the Court expressed in the able and exhaustive opinion of Mr. Justice Solté. The Legislature promptly amended the statute, restoring to the Court the power to pass upon the moral character of applicants. Laws 1907, ch. 70. The long and honorable history of the Bar of North Carolina, distinguished by its learning, high personal and professional standards and its patriotic service to the State, is justly regarded by the people with pride. Prior to 1868 no court, so far as our public records show, had been called upon to exercise its power to disbar an attorney. The unfortunate conflicts of the period following the Civil War called attention to the necessity for defining more clearly the relative rights and powers of the bench and bar. The courts promptly and wisely recognized the power of the Legislature and the statutes enacted by it as the “State’s collected will.” If new conditions bringing a necessity for restoring the “inherent powers” to the courts exist, we should in the same spirit obey the law, with the assurance that *57such legislation will be enacted as will enable tbe Bar Association, with the aid of the court, to remove from the roll the names of men who are guilty of forgery, whether committed in this State or elsewhere. We do not see any good reason why, if the law be so changed as to permit it, the Court, in this proceeding, may not investigate the serious question presented by the action of the committee on grievances, and proceed, after full hearing, to dispose of it by making such order as will preserve the integrity and purity of the bar, so far as respondent is concerned. While we do not. construe his demurrer to the evidence as an admission of his guilt, because under the statute it was not open to him to deny it, we are of the opinion that if power is conferred upon the court by the Legislature, it is due to him and the Bar of the State that a full investigation be had, and that he either be relieved of the charge resting upon him or that he be disbarred and his name stricken from the' roll of attorneys. There seems to be a misconception of the plain language, of the statute. In unmistakable terms it says that upon conviction of the crime the court must disbar. No question of the respondent’s guilt is or can be presented. The judge did not and could not possibly give the respondent leave to answer denying the commission of the offense. He had no power to hear or determine any such question. If the power of the court is limited, it is because the Legislature has done so. The same power can remove the limitation. It is not a question whether men guilty of felony shall practice law in North Carolina, but whether the court shall exercise power of which the Legislature has deprived them. It was attempted, in Moore, ex parte; Biggs, ex parte, and Schenck, ex parte, with us, and the Legislature “tied the hands” of the Court. Ex parte, Garland, 71 U. S., 333. We must declare the law as we find it to be, without fear of criticism. The courts of this State will exhaust their power to purge the bar of unworthy members, but dare not assume power to do so.
The cause will be remanded to the Superior Court of Buncombe, with direction to set aside the order disbarring respondent, and taking such further action in the premises as may be in accordance with the law. The General Assembly convenes *58oil the first Wednesday in January, 1909, and, if it see fit, a * very simple amendment to section 211 of the Revisal will clothe the court with full power to proceed.
Remanded.