delivered the opinion of the court.
The first point urged against the judgment in this case is that the declaration states no cause of action, and that consequently the motion in arrest after verdict should have been granted.
This position is based on the argument—to ube the language of the plaintiff in error’s brief—“that the existence of those things which constitute a lien at law is one of the indispensable elements of the plaintiff’s case,” and “a conclusion of law being substituted therefor, there is a complete failure to state a cause of action, and such a pleading cannot be aided by verdict.”
Before reciting the particular averments which are in this case claimed by plaintiff in error to be subject to the animadversion of being mere conclusions of law, it may not be out of place to allude to the great difficulty which exists in drawing a line between ultimate facts (which, as distinguished from evidentiary facts, alone are proper to plead) and the pleader’s inference from facts, or between such ultimate facts and mixed conclusions of law and fact.
Charles O’Connor, quoted in Andrew Stephen’s Pleading, p. 154 (note 4), said: “I think the code contains, as I best recollect at this moment, only one thing which can be called new in principle, and that is an attempt at an absolute impossibility in prescribing the rule of pleading. It declares in substance and *652effect that you shall not plead, as in the old system, the conclusions in law or in reason, from the facts of the case, and at the same time it prohibits you from stating or detailing the evidence merely on which you rely.”
That that which is by Mr. O’Connor described as impossible is at least difficult, is recognized by all text-writers and in many decided cases. Judge Mulkey, in Zimmerman v. Willard, 114 Ill. 364, says, speaking of a pleading which said that a deed of assignment mentioned in previous pleadings “was executed, made, had and contrived by the said Willard of his fraud and covin with the intent and purpose to delay, hinder and defraud his creditors * * * and was utterly void”:
“It is first objected that the replication states a mere conclusion of the pleader and not the facts constituting the fraud, as it should do. This is a misapprehension. While we fully recognize the general rule adverted to by counsel, yet in applying it there is another general rule that must not be lost sight of, namely, that it is not proper to plead mere matters of evidence in any case. It may he difficult in some cases to apply these well-recognized rules of pleading—and this indeed is conceded by the most authoritative text-writers; yet we perceive no difficulty in applying them in the present instance. The fraud relied on here is not, as is generally the case, to be inferred from a great variety of issuable facts to be proven on the trial. It differs from other cases in this respect, however, only in the paucity of the issuable facts from which the fraud is to be inferred. The defense here consists of two facts, namely, the making of the deed, and the alleged illegal or fraudulent intent with which it was done. Both these facts are distinctly averred, and present triable issues, and this is all the law requires.”
The “ultimate fact” which must be pleaded is frequently an inference, and conclusion from many evi*653dentiary facts, and is, in a sense, a mixed conclnsion of law and fact. The common law system of pleading, despite all the rules against the pleadings of “conclusions of law,” often allowed conclusions of law to be pleaded. In ■, some cases hardly anything else was pleaded. Take the common indebitatus assumpsit counts, for example, as a basis for recovery, where the promise is implied, and what are they but conclusions of law? While, therefore, it cannot be denied that there is a rule of pleading that mere conclusions of law should not be pleaded, it is a rule that should be applied with liberality, and courts should not be astute to declare these statements mere conclusions of law, which can be instead construed as statements of ultimate as distinguished from evidentiary facts, or at the worst, as mixed conclusions of law and fact.
The statements particularly objected to in the different counts of the declaration in this case, as being mere conclusions of law, are those which declare that there was in existence at the time of the purchase and sale a described trust deed (the parties and date being given) conveying said premises, together with other property in said subdivision, and securing an indebtedness of $1,500, and that said trust deed encumbered said property with a valid and subsisting lien upon said premises for the amount aforesaid. We cannot see why facts are not “distinctly averred” by these allegations, nor why they do not present “triable issues,” nor why this is not “all the law requires.” Zimmerman v. Willard, supra.
The second objection made by the plaintiff in error to the judgment is that the proof does not support the allegations of the declaration. In the first place, it is said that there is no evidence whatever to support material allegations of the declaration, that this is not a question of variance, • but of entire absence of proof, and that in consequence the case should *654have been taken from the jury by a peremptory instruction.
The ground for this claim, however, which is advanced in argument, is in effect a claim of variance. The plaintiff in error lays stress upon the fact that there was no evidence to prove some of the statements charged, and that such statements concerning the title as were proved differed from those charged.
But the Supreme Court said of an action of deceit: “Such allegations may be regarded as .divisible, and the plaintiff may succeed if he can prove any one of them which of itself makes a cause of action. * * * It is also true that the plaintiff might recover although he did not prove the misrepresentations precisely as laid nor in all the different forms as laid, but it was required of him to prove substantially the material allegations.” Endsley v. Johns, 120 Ill. 469.
We think that the testimony of the plaintiff and her mother tended to prove “substantially the material allegations,” and that the exact language used in the declaration is not proven is not material. The court committed no error in allowing the case to go to the jury.
But it is further insisted that at all events the court erred in not granting a new trial after the verdict; that the decided weight of the evidence was against the plaintiff. It is urged that defendant, who denied the false representations, is a priori equally credible with Mrs. Schaefer and Mrs. Bankin, who asserted them, and that the attending circumstances corroborate him.
The testimony was undoubtedly conflicting. Had the jury found the other way, we should not have disturbed its verdict, but we see no justification for doing so as it is. The jury had the witnesses before them; their credibility was considered by them; we cannot properly substitute our judgment for theirs. It is to be noted, too, that this is the second jury *655before whom the same witnesses have appeared with the same result.
The verdict is complained of also for the reason that it is too large, even if a liability for some amount should be assumed to exist. This presents the question of the proper rule of damages in a case of this character. An instruction on this subject asked by the plaintiff was given by the court, as follows:
“The court instructs the jury that if you find the issues for the plaintiff, you should assess the plaintiff’s damages at such sum, if any, as you may believe from the evidence and under the instructions of the court that the plaijitiff necessarily paid in discharge of the encumbrance, if any, shown by the evidence, resting, at the time of the purchase thereof by the plaintiff, upon the lot in question, purchased by her, together with interest upon that amount from the date of such payment at the rate of five per cent, per annum. ’ ’
This instruction is complained of by plaintiff in error, but we do not think it open to animadversion. It is said that “the true measure of damages is the difference between the value of the lot as it was represented to be and its actual value at the time of the sale,” and that this instruction varies from that rule. Neither proposition seems to us exactly correct. In some cases where property is represented to be clear which is in reality encumbered, the literal application of this rule thus formulated would prevent the effect which plaintiff in error asserts the true rule should have—that is, the giving to the plaintiff “the benefit of his bargain. ” Drew v. Beall, 62 Ill. 164-8. Because he bought cheap on a false representation that the property was unencumbered, should not prevent him from recovering the loss suffered by the misrepresentation. It would do so under the rule mentioned, if the defendant could prove that, even subject to the encumbrance, the property was really worth what was paid for it under the belief that it was unencumbered.
*656On the other hand, as applied to the facts of this particular case, the proposition laid down by the instruction does not vary from the rule mentioned, or if it does, it so varies to the advantage, and not the disadvantage, of the plaintiff in error. The evidence was, we think, sufficient to make a prima facie showing of the value of the lot unencumbered at $1,050, the amount paid for it. It was subject, with other property, to an encumbrance of $1,500, with interest. The plaintiff was restricted in her compensatory recovery to the amount necessarily paid in discharge of the encumbrance, with interest. That amount was $649 and interest—a sum much less than the actual encumbrance resting upon the land, being a proportionate part, instead of the whole of it. That amount, therefore, did measure the difference between “the value of the lot as it was represented to be” (i e., unencumbered), and “its actual value” (i. e., encumbered as it was) “at the time of the sale.”
We think the instruction stated a proper rule of damages, both generally and as including the allowance of interest. 2 Sutherland on Damages, 2d ed., sec. 623; Smith on Fraud, sec. 299; McDowell v. Milroy, 69 Ill. 498; Eames v. Morgan, 37 Ill. 260; Pungs v. American Brake Beam Co., 102 Ill. App. 76.
The jury, however, did not confine themselves to compensatory damages under the rule laid down by the instruction. If they had done so, the verdict could no.t have been more than eight hundred and forty dollars. It exceeded this by three hundred and sixty dollars. This three hundred and sixty dollars must have been awarded as punitive damages. This award, therefore, raises- a question of the further instruction on damages given at the request of the plaintiff, as follows:
“You are instructed that if you believe from the evidence and under the instructions of the court that the defendant made the representations as charged in the declaration, and that the same were false and made *657knowingly, wilfully, and maliciously, and that the plaintiff believed and relied upon said representations, and in so doing exercised reasonable prudence under all the circumstances shown by the evidence and under the instructions of the court, and that the plaintiff thereby sustained damages as charged in the declaration, then in fixing'the amount of the plaintiff’s damages you are not confined to the actual damages shown by the evidence, but may, in your discretion, award and include in your verdict as punitive or exemplary damages, such further sum, if any, as in your judgment is right and proper in view of all the evidence and instructions of the court.”
The claim is made by plaintiff in error that in whatever other cases punitive or exemplary damages may be properly awarded, they cannot be so awarded where the act complained of is one indictable and punishable as a criminal offense at the instance of the people.
We do not think this claim is borne out by the law as declared in Illinois, nor that the instruction is therefore erroneous. Where malice is, as here, a part of the gist of the action, the decisions of our Supreme Court justify punitive damages, even though the act complained of is an indictable one. Eames v. Morgan, 37 Ill. 267; Roth v. Eppy, 80 Ill. 283; Brannon v. Silvernail, 81 Ill. 434; Kelly v. Valentine, 17 Ill. App. 87. We think, under these authorities, the instruction was correct. The question whether the conditions set forth in the instruction existed was for the jury. If punitive damages were properly allowable, the amount of them included in this verdict cannot be considered excessive.
It is claimed by plaintiff in error that the trial court erred in refusing to instruct the jury that the guilt of the defendant in regard to the matters charged in the declaration must be proved to their satisfaction beyond all reasonable doubt before they could find a verdict for the plaintiff. In support of this contention counsel quote the broad proposition made in an opinion of the Supreme Court in a recent case—People v. Sullivan, 218 *658Ill. 419-437—to the effect: ‘ ‘ That when a criminal offense is charged in the pleadings and must be established either to sustain the cause of action or maintain the defense, the presumption of innocence arises, and the crime charged' must be proven by evidence which removes every reasonable doubt of guilt.” To this statement are cited in The People v. Sullivan, as there are to the same broad proposition in the plaintiff in error’s brief, Crandall v. Dawson, 1 Gilman, 556; McConnel v. Delaware Mutual Insurance Co., 18 Ill. 228; Harbison v. Shook, 41 Ill. 141; Sprague v. Dodge, 48 Ill. 142; Germania Fire Insurance Co. v. Klewer, 129 Ill. 599.
These cited cases were nearly all discussed by us in Solomon v. Buechele, 119 Ill. App. 595, the decision of which was made by us some time before the Sullivan case was decided by the Supreme Court; and we there held that they could not be considered authority for so broad a statement as that 'to which they are cited in the Sullivan case—if that statement is to be taken literally and without limitation. We held that at most the rule that evidence of a criminal offense must in a civil proceeding be proved beyond a reasonable doubt only applied to infamous crimes, and not to such criminal offenses as assault and battery. Although the criminal offense of obtaining money, under false pretenses is not a felony under our Criminal Code, it may perhaps be considered an infamous crime. This is doubtful, however, and in view of the opinion of the Supreme Court in Eames v. Morgan, 37 Ill. 260, where the question seems passed on by the approval of one of the instructions objected to, we should have no hesitation, were it not for the expressions- before quoted from the Sullivan case, in holding that the rules of evidence governing such cases as the present did not require more than a preponderance of evidence to warrant a verdict against the defendant, and even with those expressions before us, we are still of this opinion. The language of an opinion must be *659taken in connection with the facts of the case. It cannot be expected, in stating a rule of law applicable to those facts, always to include all the limitations and restrictions which might make it precise. In the Sullivan case the crime charged was punishable by imprisonment in the penitentiary, and was plainly of the nature called infamous in the law, and what is perhaps more important, the information was as direct a charge of crime by the state which by its proper officers was prosecuting it, as though it had been an indictment, and the penalty which the state was endeavoring to fasten on the defendant was not a money judgment, but a degrading and humiliating expulsion from the bar, and a prohibition of his following his profession. The court says that there was no preponderance of evidence showing guilt, but further fortifies its decision by saying that preponderance would not be sufficient. We do not think that the opinion was intended to change or extend the rule which preceding cases had established.
Finally, it is claimed that although in actions for deceit by false representations, the rule in Illinois requires proof that the representations must have been knowingly made, with the intent to deceive, the verdict and judgment sought to be upheld were rendered without any proof that the defendant knew of the existence of a lien or trust deed on these premises. It is further insisted that this necessity of the proof of the scienter was omitted from the instruction on punitive damages that we have before recited.
We cannot agree that there is no evidence tending to prove knowledge on the part of the defendant in the legal sense of the falsity of the representations imputed to him. He was said to have represented, in positive terms, the property to be without encumbrance. In the legal sense, if he did not know anything about it, he knew that that representation was false. It was in such a case morally false also. A man cannot state with positiveness and as of abso*660lute knowledge a proposition of fact affecting the interests of another, of which he actually knows nothing, for the purpose of affecting that other person’s actions for the speaker’s advantage, or that of his principal, and be accounted truthful, even if he happens to chance on the correct statement. If his statement chances to be false, he must, moreover, in such a case, bear the consequences of its falsity. Smith v. Richards, 13 Peters, 26; Stone v. Denny, 4 Metcalf, 151; Borders v. Kettleman, 142 Ill. 96.
In this case besides, there is evidence that the defendant took the acknowledgment of the trust deed in question, and evidence, competent fo go to the jury for what it might be. worth, of his evasive and suspicious conduct and answer when, after discovery of the mortgage was made, he was interviewed by the plaintiff and her mother.
In the instruction attacked we think that the “scienter” was sufficiently contained in the provision that the representations and statements must be found to be false and made “knowingly and maliciously.” No reasonable construction could be given to the word “knowingly” which referred it to anything but. the falsity, of the representations.
Three juries have been called and two have passed on this cause. We find in the record of the last trial no reversible error, and the judgment of the Superior Court must be and is hereby affirmed.
Affirmed.