In this civil case, the appellant’s tender of the transcript was denied by our clerk because the order extending the time to file the transcript was not entered within the ninety-day period. See Ark. R. App. P. 5(b).
The trial court signed the order within the ninety-day period, but it was not entered within that period. Rule 4(e) of the Arkansas Rules of Appellate Procedure provides that a final “order is entered within the meaning of this rule when it is filed with the clerk of the court in which the claim was tried.” (Emphasis supplied.)
We explained in Finley v. State, 281 Ark. 38, 661 S.W.2d 358 (1983) and Sullivan v. Wickliffe, 284 Ark. 33, 678 S.W.2d 771 (1984), that the critical factor in this type of case is when the order is entered, not when it is signed.
*187In this case the order was timely signed and filed with the judge, but not with the clerk of the court. A question has been raised about a possible conflict of the above quoted rule of appellate procedure with one of our rules of civil procedure. Ark. R. Civ. P. 5(d) provides:
Filing with the Judge. The judge may permit papers or pleadings to be filed with him, in which event he shall note thereon the filing date and forthwith transmit them to the office of the clerk.
We addressed this issue in Sullivan v. Wickliffe, supra, and explained that an order cannot be deemed entered, or filed with the clerk, just because it is signed by the judge and it contains a recitation that it is filed, when in fact it is not filed with the clerk. If our rules were otherwise, the prevailing party could not discover by public record whether the case was ended.
Motion for a rule on the clerk is denied.