This case comes to us on an interlocutory appeal from the trial court’s denial of appellant Robert Christian Walker’s motion to transfer his case to juvenile court.
We affirm the decision to deny the transfer.
The facts, though sketchy at this initial stage of the criminal process, are gleaned from the criminal information, testimony from appellant’s witnesses at the hearing on the motion to transfer held on August 13, 1990, and statements of counsel for appellant and the prosecuting attorney. The criminal information reads:
Chris Piazza, Prosecuting Attorney of the Sixth Judicial District of Arkansas, in the name, by the authority, and on behalf of the State of Arkansas charges ROBERT CHRISTIAN WALKER a/k/a ROBERT CHRISTOPHE WALKER a/k/a/ CHRIS WALKER with the crime of violating Ark. Code Ann. § 5-10-102 MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE committed as follows, to-wit: The said defendant(s), in Pulaski County, on or about June 25, 1990, unlawfully, feloniously, and with a purpose of causing the death of another person, did cause the death of EDWARD C. COOPER by shooting him to death, against the peace and dignity of the State of Arkansas.
The prosecutor fleshed out these facts somewhat by his statement to the court at the hearing:
... we expect to be able to show that while Mr. Walker came to the scene, he took a 22 rifle from another *395person, asked to use it, fired once into the pond there, the lake, and then made a statement that he was going to shoot a nigger. And other folks will testify that they heard that. He aimed the rifle and fired, and Mr. Edward C. Cooper fell dead. The State has charged first degree murder under the theory that that was a purposeful act in aiming the weapon.
Mr. Pierce, appellant’s defense counsel, responded by saying: “There has been some distorted publicity about who made the statement, how it was made, under what circumstances . . . .’’He then emphasized two factors to negate any premeditation on appellant’s part. First, the rifle involved was not appellant’s rifle and was not brought to the scene by him. Secondly, an investigative report received by Mr. Pierce from the prosecutor showed that the distance from the point where the shot was fired to where Mr. Cooper was standing was 532 feet.
Other essential facts such as the exact location of the incident, the persons present, the time of day, and prior contact between appellant and Mr. Cooper, if any, were not presented to the trial court at the hearing and are not part of the record on review.
In support of his motion, appellant presented the testimony of seven witnesses who testified that he was “an average fourteen-year-old” and was polite, helpful, honest, and a good neighbor. He was further described as “a good kid” who played baseball and liked to fish and who had shown no previous tendency toward violence or racial hatred. Appellant’s mother testified that appellant had never made a racial slur and that the family lived in a racially mixed neighborhood. She added that appellant had never owned a gun or gone hunting and that since the incident appellant had been in counseling with a psychologist.
After the testimony from appellant’s witnesses and statements by counsel for both sides, the trial judge read the applicable statute, Act 273 of 1989 [Ark. Code Ann. § 9-27-318 (Supp. 1989)], and then said:
All right, counsel, we’re acting under 90-27-318 [sic] which states that when a case involves a juvenile aged 14 or 15 years at the time the delinquent act occurred, the *396Prosecuting Attorney has the discretion to file charges in Circuit Court for an alleged act which constitutes capital murder, murder in the first degree, murder in the second degree, kidnapping, aggravated robbery, or rape. This Court shall hold a hearing within 90 days of the filing of the charges to determine whether to retain jurisdiction of the juvenile in Circuit Court or to waive jurisdiction and transfer the case to Juvenile Court. Then further on down in making the decision to retain jurisdiction or transfer the case, the Court shall consider the following factors. One, the seriousness of the crime and whether violence was employed in the commission of the offense. Two, whether the offense is part of repetitive pattern of adjudicated offenses. Three, prior history, character traits, mental maturity and any other factor which reflects upon the juvenile’s prospects for rehabilitation. Upon a finding by clear and convincing evidence that a juvenile should be tried as an adult, the Court shall enter an order to that effect. That’s what we’ve been doing here this morning, and those are the factors that the Court does consider. Defense has called some good folks to bear upon factors two and three. Counsel, I would agree that any violent death is always tragic and serious. And in commenting upon these factors or making findings upon these factors. I’m seriously limited by the fear of commenting on the evidence which may later come to light in the case. I don’t think — I also agree that the case is not simple or straightforward. There are differences between counsel in what exactly happened, but, based upon this statute, 90-27-318 [sic], the factors the Court should consider, the testimony offered at trial here today, the statements of counsel, this Court feels by clear and convincing evidence that these facts and circumstances should be determined by a jury and not by juvenile. Your Motion to Transfer is hereby denied.
Act 273 controls the procedure in juvenile transfer cases. It reads in pertinent part:
*397(b)(1) When a case involves a juvenile age fourteen (14) years or fifteen (15) years at the time the alleged delinquent act occurred, the prosecuting attorney has the discretion to file charges in circuit court for an alleged act which constitutes capital murder, murder in the first degree, murder in the second degree, kidnapping in the first degree, aggravated robbery, or rape.
(2) The circuit court shall hold a hearing within ninety (90) days of the filing of charges to determine whether to retain jurisdiction of the juvenile in circuit court or to waive jurisdiction and transfer the case to juvenile court.
(d) Upon the motion of the court or of any party, the judge of the court in which a delinquent petition or criminal charges have been filed shall conduct a hearing to determine whether to retain jurisdiction or to transfer the case to another court having jurisdiction.
(e) In making the decision to retain jurisdiction or to transfer the case, the court shall consider the following factors:
(1) The seriousness of the offense, and whether violence was employed by the juvenile in the commission of the offense;
(2) Whether the offense is part of a repetitive pattern of adjudicated offenses which would lead to the determination that the juvenile is beyond rehabilitation under existing rehabilitation programs, as evidenced by past efforts to treat and rehabilitate the juvenile and the response to such efforts; and
(3) The prior history, character, traits, mental maturity, and any other factor which reflects upon the juvenile’s prospects for rehabilitation.
(f) Upon a finding by clear and convincing evidence that a juvenile should be tried as an adult, the court shall enter an order to that effect.
*398In most significant respects, Act 273 is a combination of two previous Arkansas statutes which were repealed with the adoption of Act 273 in 1989. See Ark. Stat. Ann. §§ 41-617 and 45-420 (Supp. 1985). One important addition incorporated into Act 273 by the Arkansas General Assembly was the requirement that a finding to retain a juvenile in circuit court be based upon clear and convincing evidence.
Appellant first asserts on appeal that though he filed the motion to transfer the case to juvenile court, the prosecutor had the burden of proving that the case should remain in circuit court. He focuses particularly on paragraph (f) of Act 273 which requires that a trial court’s finding to retain jurisdiction be by clear and convincing evidence. Appellant argues that because the prosecutor filed the charge against him in circuit court and resisted the transfer, he had the burden of proving to the trial court that appellant should be tried as an adult. But the statute does not say that. Rather, the statute says the finding by the court to try a juvenile as an adult must be by clear and convincing evidence. It is silent on which party has the burden of proof.
We think the better rule is that the moving party seeking to transfer a defendant from one jurisdiction to another has the burden of justifying that transfer by proof and persuasion. That certainly comports with the general proposition in law that the party seeking to establish a proposition has the burden of proving it. Edwin F. Armstrong & Co. v. Ben Pearson, Inc., 294 F. Supp. 163 (D.C. Ark. 1968), aff'd Leisure Group, Inc. v. Edwin F. Armstrong & Co., 404 F.2d 610 (8th Cir. 1968). Other jurisdictions have so held in juvenile transfer cases. In 1990 the Superior Court of Pennsylvania held in a murder case that to effectuate a transfer of a juvenile to juvenile court, the juvenile offender had to present proof to show that he met the criteria for transfer. Commonwealth v. Leatherbury, 568 A.2d 1313 (Pa. Super. 1990); see also H.W. v. State, 759 P.2d 214 (Okla. Crim. App. 1988) (statute held constitutional which shifted burden of proof to juvenile to justify transfer).
Our conclusion that appellant had the burden of offering proof and persuading the trial court on his motion is not *399inconsistent with the statutory mandate that a trial court reject a transfer to juvenile court only upon a finding of clear and convincing evidence. Appellant still has the burden of going forward with proof to show he meets the criteria of the statute to warrant transfer. If he meets that burden, the transfer is made. Under Act 273 he only fails if there is clear and convincing countervailing evidence to support a finding that the juvenile should remain in circuit court.
In this case the trial court found there was countervailing evidence which was clear and convincing. We have defined clear and convincing evidence as “that degree of proof which will produce in the trier of fact a firm conviction as to the allegation sought to be established.” Kelly v. Kelly, 264 Ark. 865, 870, 575 S.W.2d 672, 676 (1979). However, as appellant underscores, no direct testimony or other evidence was presented by the prosecutor to support retention of appellant in circuit court. All that was before the trial court in the way of evidence to warrant retention was the criminal information which was part of the court’s record in this case and which, therefore, was subject to judicial notice by the trial court. A.R.E. Rule 201(b). Oral statements and arguments by counsel do not qualify as evidence for purposes of the trial court’s finding. The criminal information does qualify as evidence to be considered by the trial judge. What the criminal information evidences is that a charge of first degree murder has been filed by the prosecutor against appellant. The criminal information itself, of course, is not evidence of the fact that the crime charged was actually committed.
There is, admittedly, a paucity of evidence supporting the trial court’s finding of clear and convincing evidence. Nevertheless, there is some evidence in the form of the criminal information which highlights the seriousness of the offense and the fact that violence was used which are factors to be considered in the trial court’s decision. Ark. Code Ann. § 9-27-318(e)(1). There is no question but that the trial judge gave considerable weight to the seriousness of the offense and the violence alleged in his decision. Indeed, he says so: “Counsel, I would agree that any violent death is always tragic and serious.”
We have previously held that abuse of discretion is the standard for review of the trial court’s decision in juvenile *400transfer cases. Ashing v. State, 288 Ark. 75, 702 S.W.2d 20 (1986); Evans v. State, 287 Ark. 136, 697 S.W.2d 879 (1985). In examining discretionary decisions we have further stated: “. . . the question is not what we would have done, but whether, as a matter of law, discretion was abused—was the judgment call arbitrary or groundless?” Looper v. Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan Ass’n, 292 Ark. 225, 228, 729 S.W.2d 156, 157 (1987). We are not prepared to say that the trial court’s decision was groundless in this case or that he abused his discretion.
Nor do we agree with appellant’s argument that the trial judge failed to consider all of the factors set out in Act 273. On the contrary, the trial judge says he did: “That’s what we’ve been doing here this morning, and those are the factors that the court does consider.” There is nothing in the record to suggest the trial court did anything other than carefully consider the criminal information and testimony of appellant’s witnesses in making his decision. To the extent appellant is arguing that the trial judge should have given equal weight to each factor in this case under Act 273, we have previously held that the court need not give equal weight to each factor in juvenile transfer cases and, further, that proof need not be introduced by the prosecutor against the juvenile on each factor. Hallman v. State, 288 Ark. 448, 706 S.W.2d 381 (1986); Ashing v. State, 288 Ark. 75, 702 S.W.2d 20 (1986).
Further error is assigned by appellant to the trial court’s failure to make findings of fact supporting his decision or to cite a specific rationale for refusing the transfer. Again, prior holdings in juvenile transfer cases militate against that requirement, and we are not convinced that a reversal of these cases is warranted. See Ashing v. State, 288 Ark. 75, 702 S.W.2d 20 (1986); Evans v. State, 287 Ark. 136, 697 S.W.2d 879 (1985). As we said in Evans:
Although it would be preferable for a trial court judge to state the reasons for his decision, there is no statutory requirement that he do so.
287 Ark. at 143, 697 S.W.2d at 883.
In sum, the trial court found that the seriousness of the crime and the violence attached to it as set out in the criminal *401information outweighed the other Act 273 factors such as lack of repetitive pattern and positive character traits which were proven by appellant at the hearing. While it might have been desirable and even preferable for the prosecutor to present additional evidence at the hearing to support retaining appellant in circuit court, we hold that the criminal information provided a sufficient basis for the trial court’s decision.
Affirmed.
Dudley, Newbern and Corbin, JJ., dissent.